[CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being encountered by the ICANN staff

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 13:09:32 UTC 2016


18:30 UTC.

On Friday, September 30, 2016, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:

> Depends what you mean by GMT (it's often misunderstood -- GMT and UTC are
> the same thing).
>
> So you are technically correct (although we don't use the term GMT anymore
> except during the winter-time).
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> But GMT is NOT the same as "UK time" - that is "BST" right now.
>
> So, if I understand this correctly, this will take place at 7:30 PM UK and
> Ireland time, and 8:30 PM in Central Europe.
>
> On 30/09/16 12:51, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
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>> Hearing in the case is scheduled for 130 PM Central Time (I think that is
>> GMT -5) today ….
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:06 PM
>> To: 'Jonathan Zuck' <JZuck at actonline.org>; Lori Schulman
>> <lschulman at inta.org>; 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com>; Martin Boyle
>> <martin.boyle at nominet.uk>
>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
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>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> Continuing Resolution passed.  Lawsuit filed in Texas:
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>> https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/epress/Net_
>> Complaint_-_FILED.pdf
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>> From: Jonathan Zuck [mailto:JZuck at actonline.org]
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:24 PM
>> To: Lori Schulman; Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> Yes but things could still change.
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>> Jonathan Zuck
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>> Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org <mailto:lschulman at inta.org> >
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:01:16 PM
>> To: Aikman-Scalese, Anne; 'Raoul Plommer'; Martin Boyle
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>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> I saw a tweet from ISOC to that effect but I don’t have confirmation.
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>> Lori S. Schulman
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:48 PM
>> To: 'Raoul Plommer' <plommer at gmail.com <mailto:plommer at gmail.com> >;
>> Martin
>> Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> >
>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
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>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> I heard the Rider preventing the IANA transition is OUT of the current
>> Continuing Resolution.  Can Steve or Becky confirm?
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>> Anne
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>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Raoul
>> Plommer
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:53 AM
>> To: Martin Boyle
>> Cc: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
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>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
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>> Milton, I'm glad to see there's now been lots of responses to Ted Cruz's
>> spin and hopefully this debunking will hit Trump's peddling as well. They
>> probably won't learn to stop peddling lies but at least they've
>> underestimated some knowledgeable people within ICANN, who are able to
>> describe the IANA transition in layman's terms.
>>
>> I learned a couple of things from that article, too.. =)
>>
>> -Raoul
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>> On 22 September 2016 at 18:37, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk
>> <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk> > wrote:
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>> Sorry for the delay, Nigel.
>>
>> I agree with your conclusion.
>>
>> As you note, the .int TLD is quite well identified other than for the
>> international databases:  there is no ambiguity in scope for organizations
>> established by international treaties.
>>
>> If I have understood correctly, international databases were transferred
>> to
>> be included under .arpa some long time ago.
>>
>> Either way, I see no reason why .int should be opened up beyond
>> organizations established by international treaty at this stage and
>> certainly not without a properly constituted policy development process
>> (which would need to establish a process for appointing a new operator).
>>
>> None of this, of course, nullifies your conclusion!
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nigel Roberts [mailto:nigel at channelisles.net
>> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net> ]
>> Sent: 16 September 2016 12:05
>> To: Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk <mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.uk>
>> >
>> Cc: Christopher Wilkinson <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
>> <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> >;
>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Answers to some common questions being
>> encountered
>> by the ICANN staff
>>
>> The only reference is descriptive rather than policy setting. .INT
>> predates
>> RFC1591.
>>
>> It says, simply "This domain is for organizations established by
>> international treaties, or international databases". (The latter term is
>> undefined, but includes telephony applications).
>>
>> You will find this text alongside all the other (at the time) existing
>> generic domains as follows.
>>
>> Much of what is written below has been changed, and much of what has been
>> changed was changed outside ICANN.
>>
>> I would be interested to know which policy decision classified some of the
>> gTLDs in this list as "dehors ICANN", and which within.
>>
>> But as two of the gTLDs described in RFC 1591 are currently extremely
>> sensitive (MIL and GOV),from what I heard in the Senate hearing, perhaps
>> its
>> best not to ask for an answer to this until after the end of the month??
>>
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>>    World Wide Generic Domains:
>>>
>>>    COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
>>>          companies.  This domain has grown very large and there is
>>>          concern about the administrative load and system performance if
>>>          the current growth pattern is continued.  Consideration is
>>>          being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
>>>          commercial registrations in the subdomains.
>>>
>>>    EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational
>>>          institutions.  Many Universities, colleges, schools,
>>>          educational service organizations, and educational consortia
>>>          have registered here.  More recently a decision has been taken
>>>          to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and
>>>          universities.  Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered
>>>          in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,
>>>          below).1
>>>
>>>    NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
>>>          providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
>>>          administrative computers, and the network node computers.  The
>>>          customers of the network provider would have domain names of
>>>          their own (not in the NET TLD).
>>>
>>>    ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
>>>          organizations that didn't fit anywhere else.  Some non-
>>>          government organizations may fit here.
>>>
>>>    INT - This domain is for organizations established by international
>>>          treaties, or international databases.
>>>
>>>    United States Only Generic Domains:
>>>
>>>    GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
>>>          office or agency.  More recently a decision was taken to
>>>          register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
>>>          domain.  State and local agencies are registered in the
>>> country
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Postel                                                          [Page 2]
>>>
>>>
>> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
>>>
>>>
>>>          domains (see US Domain, below).
>>>
>>>    MIL - This domain is used by the US military.
>>>
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