[Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report

Wed Dec 4 12:52:01 UTC 2019

Hi,

while I personally like Jen very much, I find this comment and the 
implication of a conflict of interest immensely offensive. This 
insiunuation of intent to profit from illicit use is frankly outrageous.

Volker

Am 03.12.2019 um 23:56 schrieb Jennifer Gore:
>
> Hello All,
>
> In my opinion, the Registrar is the worst party to be the decision 
> maker of the data subject due to the blatant conflict of interest. The 
> registrant will have already entered into a legal relationship with 
> the registrar under the registrant (end user) agreement along with it 
> being in the best interests of the registrar to _not terminate_ the 
> relationship with the registrant.  Therefore, I hope Milton _is not 
> saying_ that he will hold up consensus even if the DPAs do support the 
> isolation of centralized decision making within ICANN Org.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jennifer
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> *From:*Gnso-epdp-team [mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Mueller, Milton L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:29 PM
> *To:* King, Brian <Brian.King at markmonitor.com>; gnso-epdp-team at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report
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> *From:*King, Brian <Brian.King at markmonitor.com 
> <mailto:Brian.King at markmonitor.com>>
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> >Are you saying that even if the DPB writes to the Strawberries and says
>
> >“yes, it’s possible to isolate liability for decision-making centrally with
>
> >ICANN Org”, it would still be impossible for us to come to consensus on
>
> >the centralized decision-making model? (ignoring how (un)likely we think
>
> >that response is)
>
> Yes, indeed. That is what I am saying. This is one reason we are not 
> so pleased with all this kerfuffle about the EDPB. You’re putting the 
> cart before the horse.
>
> What matters is not whether it is legally _possible_ for ICANN to 
> magically absorb the legal responsibility of the registrars for 
> releasing the data of their customers; what matters is whether that is 
> _/desirable/_ from a policy standpoint. Legal advice or “guidance” 
> from the EDPB has no bearing on what is the right policy, it only 
> clarifies whether one of the policy options is feasible.
>
> We want the disclosure decision to be made as close as possible to the 
> party who is directly accountable to the registrant, the data subject, 
> and that’s the registrar. We believe that the legitimate interests of 
> data requestors are served by standardizing the process, and 
> centralizing and facilitating requests, but centralizing disclosure is 
> going to make it into an automated rubber stamp, as I suspect you have 
> already figured out.
>
> Dr. Milton L Mueller
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> School of Public Policy
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> Georgia Institute of Technology
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