[Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward

Mon Aug 11 19:34:26 UTC 2014

Agreed.  It appears that we have consensus with just a few holdouts.  Let's move on.  Thanks.  Jon

On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> I would also support the consensus call here. I believe the overwhelming majority of the group supports 1+2, and that the minority objections to it pertained to regional/citizenship diversity. I thought that these concerns had been met by the withdrawal of K. Drazek as a candidate and the understanding that the +2 would be from different regions. 
> 
> --MM
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-
>> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:48 PM
>> To: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
>> Cc: ICG
>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
>> 
>> Hi Jean-Jacques,
>> 
>> On 8/11/14, 8:31 AM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs at dyalog.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry Alissa,
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid there is neither clarity nor consensus on the way forward on
>>> this point, and that the deadline will have to be extended.
>> 
>> As interim chair, I made the consensus call last week, in my email below.
>> It continues to stand, and I believe I have the support of the bulk of the
>> group behind me. Consensus involves accommodating objections to the best
>> extent possible while maintaining broad support within the group. It does
>> not require unanimity and cannot be held up by a small minority of objectors.
>> 
>> So we are on track to get the selection going once the deadline expires later
>> today.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alissa
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jean-Jacques.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>> De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
>>> À: "ICG" <internal-cg at icann.org>
>>> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 17:24:34
>>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
>>> 
>>> Reminder: People who wish to volunteer for a chair role need to do so
>>> by
>>> 23:59 UTC today, Aug 11. I believe the current list of volunteers is as
>>> follows:
>>> 
>>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>>> Patrik Fälström
>>> Mohamed El Bashir
>>> Alissa Cooper
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alissa
>>> 
>>> On 8/7/14, 10:57 AM, "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to everyone for engaging on the topic of chair structure.
>>>> Taking in all of the in-person and email discussion thus far, I think
>>>> we have a viable path forward. My observations are:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. In response to the compromise I suggested on July 31 [i], the group
>>>> demonstrated broad support for a 1+2 structure, with an objection from
>>>> Jean-Jacques and ALAC. This included support from people who had
>>>> previously stated preferences for other structures, and even support
>>>> from people who had previously said they could not live with 1+2. This
>>>> is what some people might call “consensus” and what I would normally
>>>> describe as “rough consensus” in support of 1+2.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. We have very strong support for a “1+something” chair structure,
>>>> following the recent mail from Jean-Jacques [ii]. I don’t think we
>>>> have anyone objecting to 1+something at this point.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. We have had lengthy discussions on the list about geographic
>>>> diversity. We have very strong support in the group for having
>>>> geographically diverse participation throughout the stewardship
>>>> transition plan development process. We have differences of opinion
>>>> within the group about the extent to which that diversity must be
>>>> required to extend to the chairs of the ICG.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. We have a demonstrated need to agree within the ICG about the
>>>> methods, both electronic and in-person, that we will use to arrive at
>>>> and judge consensus within this group going forward.
>>>> 
>>>> Taking the above into consideration, let's proceed as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> Go forward with a 1+2 structure — 1 chair and 2 vice-chairs. I believe
>>>> the current list of people who have volunteered to serve in these
>>>> roles
>>>> is:
>>>> 
>>>> Russ Housley
>>>> Patrik Fälström
>>>> Mohamed El Bashir
>>>> Keith Drazek
>>>> Alissa Cooper
>>>> 
>>>> (I do not think we need re-confirmations from the above people because
>>>> they have mostly re-confirmed already on the list at some point over
>>>> the last several weeks, but if any of the above listed people wants to
>>>> withdraw, please say so.)
>>>> 
>>>> Taking the suggestion from Jean-Jacques, I think we should give people
>>>> a few more days to volunteer. So if you would like to volunteer,
>>>> please make that known on the list by August 11, 23:59 UTC.
>>>> 
>>>> On August 12, Joe, who previously agreed to detail the chair roles and
>>>> run the selection process [iii], and Wolf-Ulrich, who has agreed to
>>>> help Joe while Joe is traveling, will launch the selection process. In
>>>> making their selections, ICG participants should take the geographic
>>>> diversity discussions we’ve had into account.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe and Wolf-Ulrich will also begin drafting a proposal that describes
>>>> the methods the group will use for arriving at and judging consensus
>>>> going forward, and will make that proposal available to the group for
>>>> discussion when it is ready.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alissa
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [i] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html
>>>> 
>>>> [ii] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html
>>>> 
>>>> [iii] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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