[UA-Tech] "Champions of UA" RECOGNITION [was: Re: UASG Five Year Strategic Planning FY(2025 - 2029)]

Thu Oct 26 10:28:15 UTC 2023

Dear Jothan, all,

Medals are given after the battle. Higher ranks are given during the battle.

Guessing that we are talking about the medals. Recognition is always 
good, give motivation, and it depends on the model how the "medals" are 
introduced. It seems to me that this idea is aligning with UA day, 
trophy to be given as annual UA award.

Champions of the world, says NBA for Denver Nuggets last year - strong 
words, "the champions" and "the world". We would do practically the 
same, champion of the world of UA, and this raise the questions - who 
elects the champions, by which criteria... NBA is basketball 
championship and champs are decided on court by winning, while UA is 
not, and it must goes under the subjective set of criteria and as a 
decision of some people...

By that subjective argumentation on award, we can also make some 
demotivated, who expected the award.

So, all in all, I am for it, it is a good idea, but the model of 
rewarding should be clear and clean. We need all people to say - yup, 
that person or that company deserve such award, he earned it fairly.

My two cents,

Dusan

On 24.10.2023. 11:28, Jothan Frakes via UA-Tech wrote:
> Thanks Jim.
>
> I didn't see any other responses so I thought that my message may not 
> have gotten through to the list.
>
> Hopefully it might be a modest lift with large gain
>
> -Jothan
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 9:49 AM Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg at jdlh.com 
> <mailto:list%2Buasg at jdlh.com>> wrote:
>
>     I love, love, love this idea of a "Champions of UA" Recognition!
>
>     UASG does not have the power to compel organisations to become
>     universally accepting. We cannot really affect the economic
>     incentives which will, I believe, determine what universal
>     acceptance happens or does not happen. But we certainly can
>     celebrate those who are doing a good job.
>
>     We can take as models various awards: the Nobel prizes[1] for
>     benefit to humanity, the Collier Trophy[2] for aeronautics and
>     astronautics, the Academy Awards[3] ("Oscars") for the film
>     industry, etc.
>
>     I suspect that $10,000 spent on developing an award for best
>     Universal Acceptance accomplishment of the year, conferring it,
>     and publicising it, might well advance Universal Acceptance more
>     than hiring developers to evaluate and report on the universal
>     acceptance flaws of a software library.
>
>     Great idea, Jothan!
>
>     Best regards,
>         —Jim DeLaHunt
>
>     [1] Nobel Prizes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize>
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize>
>     [2] Collier Trophy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Trophy>
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Trophy>
>     [3] Academy Awards <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards>
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards>
>
>     On 2023-10-09 10:34, Jothan Frakes via UA-Tech wrote:
>>     ...[background omitted]...
>>     Rather than pointing this likely familiar and aggressively
>>     inconvenient aspect of the gaps that plague UA, I came up with an
>>     idea that I'd like to float, and in the context of the budget
>>     planning, would hope to see resourced to recognize UA champions
>>     who step up.
>>
>>     *HERE IS THE IDEA - WHAT IF THERE WERE A "Champions of UA"
>>     RECOGNITION:*
>>     There were some dedicated recognition pages where companies' or
>>     engineer's (or others' who help) names get listed in recognition
>>     of being champions, along with what components that they
>>     updated.  I'd suggest that this would not be expensive, and there
>>     is value to people that could point to their name being listed as
>>     part of their CV or other accolades.
>>     It may require special consideration due to privacy regulation,
>>     but there's likely an opt-in process as part of submitting.
>>
>>     The resourcing would be the web page and some form of coordinator
>>     / review and curation of the champions list.  If it really took
>>     hold, one could have awards, categories or other expansion of
>>     recognition, things like badges that could be shown on linked-in
>>     or xing, or printed certificate plaque pdf that can be framed and
>>     placed on office wall.
>>
>>     It won't solve all the gaps, and may not motivate 100% of the
>>     key/crucial/necessary participants, but is really not a lot, but
>>     rather than spiffs or bounties, it is a recognition that could be
>>     meaningful enough to attract some momentum and solutions to happen.
>>
>>     Currently, due to there being a lot of tech debt involved, there
>>     is low allure to shining flashlights into the corners of how code
>>     might be looking at domains - ASCII or IDN.  Perhaps elevating
>>     and recognizing those who do (or their employers) is a way to
>>     help exchange the costs of doing so for some ability to flex some
>>     accolades or virtue signalling.
>>
>>     Please steal and use this idea, and if it does work, plan that
>>     there is budget for it considered.
>>
>>     -Jothan
>>
>     -- 
>          --Jim DeLaHunt,jdlh at jdlh.com      http://blog.jdlh.com/  (http://jdlh.com/)
>            multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
>
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